Estelle Morris interviews Tim Smit, founder of the Eden Project, about his views on education, the environment and how schools can make a big difference.
Estelle and Tim talk about his education and early career in archaeology and the music industry. They discuss taking risks, the Lost Gardens of Heligan and the concept and evolution of the Eden Project, the first "rock and roll" scientific foundation.
Tim talks about environmentalism, community, cultural change and putting the delight back into education. He discuss the Eden Project's take on teaching and learning, fusing technology, the arts and science with humanities.
Estelle and Tim also talk about politics, and consider whether Britain is on the right track with education and environmentalism.